So there is this speaker Rob Bell who has been assosiated with the emerging Church. I had started looking into some of the theology behind this doctrine and also Rob Bell's views toward it, which seem to complement it. The emerging church believes in that you can compromise your faith, everything is questionable and therefore it does not matter what is true and what could be false, you can have a faith in God even if the bible were proven false.
I was reading about Rob Bell on Wikepedia, ha..prolly not a credible source, but whatever you can prove me wrong if the quotes I reference were wrong, and I'd like to know anyway..but all seems credible to me.
Immediately following the release of his book Velvet Elvis: Repainting the Christian Faith, some evangelicals criticized some comments made in the book, especially those focused on the virgin birth of Jesus and the concept of the Trinity:
So here are some key quotes ..mostly from his book "Velvet Elvis"..I want to speak about:
1."What if tomorrow someone digs up definitive proof that Jesus had a real, earthly, biological father named Larry, and archaeologists find Larry's tomb and do DNA samples and prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the virgin birth was really just a bit of mythologizing the Gospel writers threw in to appeal to the followers of the Mithra and Dionysian religious cults that were hugely popular at the time of Jesus, whose gods had virgin births? But what if as you study the origin of the word virgin, you discover that the word virgin in the gospel of Matthew actually comes from the book of Isaiah, and then you find out that in the Hebrew language at that time, the word virgin could mean several things. And what if you discover that in the first century being "born of a virgin" also referred to a child whose mother became pregnant the first time she had intercourse?"[11]
2. However residing on only the next page (p. 27) Rob comments on how, "I affirm the historic Christian faith, which includes the virgin birth and the trinity". Many claim that the outrage over these words only further the point that Rob was trying to make; that a rigid, unquestioning faith will crumble when challenged (p. 26).
The thing that really bugs me is that he is leaning toward saying that when the Christian faith is challenged it will crumble. What kind of faith is that? If you have faith in something that can be proven false, what is your faith then?
The only thing I can think of is that you still have faith because you can see who God is just by what He created, the beauty of the earth around us (there must be a creator!). But the thing that I have started to realize after thinking about this for a long time is that faith and belief are two totally seperate things. I remember having a conversation with some other people on this topic. Belief to me is just taking something that is unknown or known as part of what you chose as truth. Like seeing Creation you can choose to believe that either evolution happened or there is a Creator. But that is just belief, that has nothing to do with faith. Faith is extended off the belief of something. Faith is trusting that your belief is true and living your life toward it. For example, even demons believe that Christ exists but they never put faith in Him, they put faith in Satan.
So, my arguement is that if you take away anything from the bible, then you could say that there is no credibility for the bible and it is all a lie. And if it is a lie what do you have to put faith in? The step in becoming a Christian is not only recognizing that you believe there is a God but then putting your faith in Him. And what do you put faith in? just believing?..that has no truth, just an idea of something that exists. On the other hand the bible has truth, not just belief and thats when faith is really played out, because it is then that you put faith in that there is a Savior and faith that you will go to heaven, that
there was a virgin Mary, and so on. But if there is not truth, if there is no word, what faith do you have? Faith needs facts behind it, if the bible can't stand up for itself then we as Christians have no faith. We have no Savior and we are just objects. We are just these robots in this world trying to have faith in something, but there is nothing...just a mystic unknown world of objects, no truth. So why do we even have facts? why can we even think? were we created to want to believe and think about things just to be taunted and tormented when everything is so meaningless because there is really no truth at all!!! How incrediblhy horrible for those that believe in evolution, you have no meaning in life, you are just part of an explosion... and then people try to make God's word as something that can not stand up for itself...you take the meaning out of Christianity, you take the cross, you take the faith, and you take away everything God intended life to be---us believing that Christ died for us and putting faith that God's truth will stand when challenged, not crumble.
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